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Like Dave, MickeyD is not for me. Having said that, until a time where Five Guys enter my world, Wendy’s Chili will have to do.
Loved that last paragraph…It brought tears to my eyes [guffaw].

Let’s shift the blame from the CEOs to where it belongs. [yeah, I am being simplistic because Ron put it so well].

If you research Steve Jobs, you will see that his business prowess is exactly what lead to the success of Apple. You may think he is just a mascot, but if you look deeper, you will see that his vision and leadership lead directly to Apple’s slow, but persistent, climb to the top.

He is a visionary, much like Thomas Edison. It’s easy to take shots at him, because you only see him presenting new products, but I know his story. He left Apple and founded NeXT Computer, which grew to be a thorn in Apple’s side. Eventually, Apple bought-out NeXT, and that was when Jobs became the “interim” CEO of Apple. Among other things, Jobs’ brought to Apple the technology for OSX, arguably one of greatest personal platforms on the market.

You can read more on Jobs here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_jobs

So, yeah, I don’t like blanket generalizations about CEO’s. Why has Apple been one of few companies to continue to show massive growth in the current economy? Must be the guys sweepin’ the floor. Nah, it’s probably because Steve Jobs is a business genius. Like Bill Gates, he dropped out of college when he created Apple.

So, I apologize if I think a person that has brought so much innovation (many that you benefit from) is referred to as a “puppet” that does nothing.

Dave: I’m wrong? Is that so? Then if I’m wrong, why are there still thousands of corporations still afloat? Oh yeah, the floor sweepers, I forgot.

This reminds me of politics. You guys repeatedly talk about how biased and WRONG the media is when covering politics (I agree). You point out that the media has an agenda, and that they are implementing class warfare to get “Maobama” elected. But, when they talk about “mean old corporations,” and “lazy over-paid CEO’s,” you say, “yeah, them bastards!”

Yes, there are bad CEO’s, but there are many good ones that never get a sniff of praise, because guys like you don’t want to hear that.

I would appreciate being “shown” I’m wrong, instead of just being “told” I’m wrong.

We’re still friends, though.

My point was to say first : In today’s market, CEO’s in general (and yes I know not all are worthless slacking bums) draw “earnings” from said Corps. that far exceed the direct proportion of the increase in sales or other wages let’s just say from 10-20 years ago. Legally, they can make any amount they wish, but when it comes to the product/service they provide going down the crapper and they still make even larger wages justify your reasoning . I could literally list several establishments I know who use this ideology of “we can’t afford to fix it” or we won’t pay for the actual job to get done as we require (now) our employees to “give a little more” to help get thru this mess. That’s fine, let’s all chip in and fix it…..whoa Nelly, the CEO still draws his chunk regardless.

As for wages , I am not promoting a higher minimum wage, no way it’s too high now. Back when I made $3.35 I earned it !!! They (today) don’t deserve the wage I made. No, not all of ‘em, but yes, most.

I’ll give one example and then shut up (cause I’z dum) a local Corporate Franchise in such a business as to have not lost a beat from this “economic crisis” claims to be “losing money”. Damn shame when some in the know could justify in certain areas sales are even UP !!! Now, in the course of business when specific equipment needs repaired : “can’t afford to fix it”. When the company relies on security cameras (numerous) and only 2 of the 12+ work : “can’t afford to fix it”. When the employees are told and expected to work (free of charged time) before and after their shift………well, all because the “times, they be tough”. When one looks into the actual profit lines and executive pay, they be the only ones getting a great product/service. Maybe they do indeed deserve it, but so does the employee who busts his/her butt for them and so does the customer who pays for said product/service.

If this were but a 1 out of 100 example, you’d be right, but you are wrong. You also need to kick back and think about how and why and who tanked your 401k or whatever. Where did it actually go, or did it just vanish ?
The only reason a person bitches is because he wants to be rich just like the “other” guy, right? ………is that the problem ? Well, it definitely is in the Pro athlete category, but… I am not bitching, just sharing what I “know” , none of us really know anything for sure, just live what we do.

Oh yeah, one last thing, the reason people advance to higher levels is so they DON’T have to work their ass off to make a buck. But, taking more than the “system” will allow is just plain foolish. When the system breaks because of the taking, no wonder the common man bitches and the system breaks.

No by rationale, an Architect who has his staff do all the work while he sits back, watching them and ordering new pencils is a slacker.

Steve Jobs?

Please. What work does he do? He’s little more than the Apple Mascot/Motivational speaker, shilling products he’s probably never even seen the insides of. That’s what happens when you give up the “co-founder” title and opt for a cushy “CEO” spot.

You’re missing the whole point of BEING a CEO. You take a CEO job precisely so you don’t have to work.

So, we should then have a bunch of trench-diggers with no idea why they are digging trenches, right? I mean work can only be defined as physical labor, right?

Man, that means that Edison was a slacker. He had over 1000 patents, was the first to implement the idea of mass-production, and coined the idea of home electricity. But, I bet someone else did the actual “work.” What an over-paid bum!

Steve Jobs, there.

Cause I know you can’t. Because of three letters; CEO.

See, people who work their asses off are Presidents of Companies, or managers. They don’t call themselves Chief Executive Officers. That’s a haughty title conferred on a person precisely because their position is overpaid and underworked.

It’s like looking for a benevolent dictator. Being a “dictator” implies some meanness. You aren’t going to find a fair, freedom loving dictator.

You aren’t going to find a hard working CEO. CEOs are, by their very definition, administrators. When was the last time you saw an administrator rolling up their sleeves and getting dirty in the trenches with the peons they are “over”? Never.

It’s part of our American business model to award do-nothing, high paying jobs to slackers. Kind of like government appointees who have no experience but get a job solely because of their political connections.

Ideally, a CEO would be someone who gets paid very little to do an easy job- watch over the hard-working managers. Instead, CEOs get obscene salaries and don’t do hard work.

Out of thousands of corporations, you never see the headline, “CEO WORKS 16 HOURS A DAY AND SAVES COMPANY FROM SURE BANCRUPCY”

Do you really believe those idiots on Capitol Hill? Look at AIG, they engineered those bonuses, and then turned around and called AIG greedy and irresponsible. But, they didn’t tell you that most of those execs were working for $1 a year, did they? ONE DOLLAR!

Let’s see, half of that over 6 months eqauls…..25 cents!

Good luck with that! I don’t think I could handle the death threats on my family, the government duplicity, and the life of a company for that kinda money!