you have a way with words and logic. I wish to be like you when I grow up.

He can then return to the U.S. in triumph, riding a glistening white Unicorn. While Bigfoot serenades him, and UFOs drop fireworks on the crowds of adoring fans.

Good to hear from you. I see you have successfully attained your liberal academic indoctrination. For fear of turning this into an intelligent conversation, I will address each of your points, one at a time, in hopes that you will not be motivated to change the subject or invoke yet another red herring.

1. “…would you rather try having a moderated conversation with the bully or go try to launch cruise missiles at him?”

Some people have absolutely no respect for life (kind of like the pro-abortion crowd). Simply explaining to them that what they are doing is wrong makes no difference. Like abortionists, they are motivated by their own self-interests and have found a way to justify their despicable actions in their minds. If I can’t make an American believe that sucking out the brains of a healthy late-term pregnancy is bad, how can I reason with people that teach their children to blow themselves and innocents up for political gain? Plus, the subject at hand was ongoing funding for a war that started six years ago, your point here is inconsequential. Regardless of your or my opinions, the war is taking place. At some point, you have to “lower” yourself, and then make an educated decision based on the current circumstances. See point 2.

2. “It would be one thing to actually take on the terrorists.”

Again, you must forget “how” the war began and face the reality of the present. Whether or not Iraq was a terrorist state in 2003 has little to do with the fact that Al Qaeda is in Iraq now. The fact that you are still arguing this point shows that you have more disdain for the Bush administration than you do for Al Qaeda. That is quite sad. If you had your way, we would stop funding the war and punish Bush, but then, just as we did in Vietnam, we would sacrifice hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives just to prove that Bush was wrong. Wow, you’re such a peace-lover.

3. “But hey, I really would like it if we were a “pansy-France” country so don’t listen to me. Better that than acting like the world police.”

Well, I will start a “send Joe to France” fund, and we could make that happen. The truth is that the “mean old USA” has consistently saved the butts of the uppity liberal ladies called France. They can avoid all wars, because they know that we will eventually come to their rescue. They are just like you. They sit back and bite the hand that feeds them. You have every right to criticize this country, because men and women have died to give you that right.

Just remember this: you cannot have a “moderated conversation” with people that are willing to kill themselves in order to kill you. I know your trusty professors will tell you otherwise, but that is because they have only lived in books and in the safety of this country. At some point, you have to begin thinking for yourself, and when I say think, I don’t mean hallucinate.

P.S. No need to worry, I won’t listen to you. I would feel much safer letting my niece make national security decisions.

Maybe true, but would you rather try having a moderated conversation with the bully or go try to launch cruise missiles at him? And that’s not even what we’re doing! It would be one thing to actually take on the terrorists, if that’s what was happening! We need to focus on REAL terror states… or even better the states that fund GENOCIDE like Darfur for instance.

But hey, I really would like it if we were a “pansy-France” country so don’t listen to me. Better that than acting like the world police.

there is no denying that this nation, unlike all other nations, was founded on Christian principles. That, does not infer the Founding Fathers had plans to turn it into a "Christian" nation. Their goal was for every man. woman and child to to live free from oppression and tyranny and to enjoy life and freedom to the fullest (of each abilities).

The Declaration of Independece states:
<quote>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…..</quote>

Our rights come from God, and Him alone. Government is meant as a tool to protect those rights.
While not all the F.F. were Christians, some were Deists, they shared a belief in the existence of a Creator.

Once, you start removing God, as it has happened in the last 40-50 years from the public square, the schools, the government, people are left to what "it's right in their own eyes." The consequences are clear to see.

True that sinful, lost men cannot save the world. In fact, they cannot even save themselves. Christianity was never meant to be sanctioned as a State religion, as it's the custom in other countries, with their particular brand of beliefs.

Having said that, Christians have the duty and the priviledge to share the gospel with those who are lost. Just as they once were in the same predicament. They also have the responsibility to counteract evil in whatever form is found, with truth and love.

You desire ( gathering your own informative statements) for America to be a Christian Nation. That's not how it was formed to be, although Christianity was then and still today the prominent religion. Your Paradise shall come, but do not be fooled into thinking this world is where it shall be fulfilled.

Oh, yeah, not all of your "Founding Fathers" adhered to the Christian faith………let alone , those who did, the Christianity that you are taught today .

Is it remotely possible that God does not intend for man to "save" the world and make it a Paradise where Christianity rules ? Our own Bible proclaims "things" that match other "prophecy". If this is God's Design, why is man so intent upon controlling destiny……………..instead of just controlling his own. We shall answer for no one save ourselves,,,,,,,,,can't even account for our child.
Man's infatuation with trying to be God……………..then again (other blog story) relate to why Eve sinned ?

Your point that people are the ones messing up the government has great validity.
That is why the founding fathers delineated the role of government, its limits and accountability to the people.

Unfortunately, the government has grown by leaps and bounds, making the "people" in charge of it forget their responsibility to the other people (us). Continuing in the same trend Congress is on a runaway shopping-spree with every pork barrel its greedy mind can concoct.

It is time that we make our voice heard and, imo, the Tea Parties have started that. No, it shouldn't end there and I don't believe it will.