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		<title>By: THIS IS NO YOLK!</title>
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		<dc:creator>THIS IS NO YOLK!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the humanity! Not the morning newscast! Why am I going on about this now? Well, once before, I commented on how no one really seems to get MADD anymore about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attend Church with the family of the young man killed by Paige Grable.  In fact, I remember receiving the news the night of the killing and rushing over to church for an impromptu prayer service.  I&#039;ve followed this case very closely and can tell you that MADD took no initiative in this matter.

Additionally, I am a former deputy prosecuting attorney in a county adjacent to the county in which the young man was killed.  My #1 responsibility was prosecuting drunk driving offenses.  Not once, in my three years in that position, did MADD ever take the time to contact me.

I think the author of this article is right as applied to Southern Indiana.  MADD really isn&#039;t all that mad any more.  Instead, they&#039;re efforts in these instances have just been kind of sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attend Church with the family of the young man killed by Paige Grable.  In fact, I remember receiving the news the night of the killing and rushing over to church for an impromptu prayer service.  I&#8217;ve followed this case very closely and can tell you that MADD took no initiative in this matter.</p>
<p>Additionally, I am a former deputy prosecuting attorney in a county adjacent to the county in which the young man was killed.  My #1 responsibility was prosecuting drunk driving offenses.  Not once, in my three years in that position, did MADD ever take the time to contact me.</p>
<p>I think the author of this article is right as applied to Southern Indiana.  MADD really isn&#8217;t all that mad any more.  Instead, they&#8217;re efforts in these instances have just been kind of sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. McClure,
Thank you for your insightful comments. Happy Thanksgiving!
Don Murray
MADD Florida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. McClure,<br />
Thank you for your insightful comments. Happy Thanksgiving!<br />
Don Murray<br />
MADD Florida</p>
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		<title>By: Ron  McClure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron  McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am troubled by your personal attacks Mr. Murray.  I was under the impression that we were all on the same side.  T.R.&#039;s comments may have been frank, but isn&#039;t his motivation the same as yours.  I hope that you and Indiana&#039;s MADD &quot;chapter&quot; are more concerned with kids&#039; lives than public approval.  If I may infer, I believe that T.R. was addressing an unknown target, and you as a passionate soldier took his comments personally.  Take a deep breath and believe in what you do, heed the words of those who advise you, and blow off the undeserved criticism.  &quot;United we stand, divided we fall.&quot;

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am troubled by your personal attacks Mr. Murray.  I was under the impression that we were all on the same side.  T.R.&#8217;s comments may have been frank, but isn&#8217;t his motivation the same as yours.  I hope that you and Indiana&#8217;s MADD &#8220;chapter&#8221; are more concerned with kids&#8217; lives than public approval.  If I may infer, I believe that T.R. was addressing an unknown target, and you as a passionate soldier took his comments personally.  Take a deep breath and believe in what you do, heed the words of those who advise you, and blow off the undeserved criticism.  &#8220;United we stand, divided we fall.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Troglodad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troglodad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the support, Mr. McClure. Up until this year I was quite happy with MADDs efforts to fight drunk driving. But their apathy in the two subject areas I mentioned really got my attention. And to be fair, I can&#039;t condemn the whole organization for the inaction of their volunteers in Southern Indiana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the support, Mr. McClure. Up until this year I was quite happy with MADDs efforts to fight drunk driving. But their apathy in the two subject areas I mentioned really got my attention. And to be fair, I can&#8217;t condemn the whole organization for the inaction of their volunteers in Southern Indiana.</p>
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		<title>By: Troglodad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troglodad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Mr. Murray, your tap-dancing around the issue here is truly inspiring- if I was a politician.

I don&#039;t care if GLADD (Grandparents Legislating Against Drunk Driving) reads any blog. What I find incredibly disheartening is the lack of speaking out on two very public issues:

1. That a drunk driver ran for the Judgeship in the court he was convicted in

2. That a teen drinker KILLED someone and then will end up serving a whopping 9 months in jail. (Ironically, the same time it would take her to create a life)

I don&#039;t think that &quot;MADD&quot; has the right to use the entendre of it&#039;s acronym any longer, because there just is NO anger being expressed. Your organization has depersonalized the tragedy of drunk driving, equating it with numbers and legislation. By dehumanizing the tragedy, you do nothing more than cite statistics.

Which do you think honestly dissuades folks from drunk driving: A mangled car placed on the lawn of a school prior to homecoming, or a smart suit and briefcase full of facts as you lobby for new laws?

Laws don&#039;t mean squat when people don&#039;t want to obey them. Your message in the 1980s was very effective, but your silence of late is akin to accepting drunk driving- how long before you begin to stamp it as &quot;okay&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Mr. Murray, your tap-dancing around the issue here is truly inspiring- if I was a politician.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if GLADD (Grandparents Legislating Against Drunk Driving) reads any blog. What I find incredibly disheartening is the lack of speaking out on two very public issues:</p>
<p>1. That a drunk driver ran for the Judgeship in the court he was convicted in</p>
<p>2. That a teen drinker KILLED someone and then will end up serving a whopping 9 months in jail. (Ironically, the same time it would take her to create a life)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that &#8220;MADD&#8221; has the right to use the entendre of it&#8217;s acronym any longer, because there just is NO anger being expressed. Your organization has depersonalized the tragedy of drunk driving, equating it with numbers and legislation. By dehumanizing the tragedy, you do nothing more than cite statistics.</p>
<p>Which do you think honestly dissuades folks from drunk driving: A mangled car placed on the lawn of a school prior to homecoming, or a smart suit and briefcase full of facts as you lobby for new laws?</p>
<p>Laws don&#8217;t mean squat when people don&#8217;t want to obey them. Your message in the 1980s was very effective, but your silence of late is akin to accepting drunk driving- how long before you begin to stamp it as &#8220;okay&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Don Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Trog...Your presumption that the MADD folks in Indiana didn&#039;t respond to your post because they were too &quot;apathetic&quot; isn&#039;t likely. A number of things may be true about your blog but non-response due to MADD apathy isn&#039;t on the list. Mostly, we choose to only respond to those blogs with significant impact. There are dozens upon dozens of bloggers who dislike our mission and effectiveness. As unlikely as it may be...the MADD Indiana folks may have determined that your small voice crying out from the web did not warrant a response. Nah...that couldn&#039;t be it. They probably just didn&#039;t see it...really. As to our rightous indignation...we&#039;re still as committed as ever. The early MADD days to which you refer, were quite effective as delivering a change message...that drinking while drunk was a bad idea. It required a cultural shift and a change in many laws across the nation. That phase has now passed. The message was delivered and received and the laws were changed. Our effectiveness continues, however, in courtrooms and state capitols. We call it strategy. If you&#039;re not feeling our rage, it&#039;s likely that you spend very little time where we are; gravesides, courtrooms, funerals, DUI Checkpoints, hospitals, high school autitoriums,or the hallways of congress.  We&#039;ll continue to do the best that we can.
Don Murray
MADD Florida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Trog&#8230;Your presumption that the MADD folks in Indiana didn&#8217;t respond to your post because they were too &#8220;apathetic&#8221; isn&#8217;t likely. A number of things may be true about your blog but non-response due to MADD apathy isn&#8217;t on the list. Mostly, we choose to only respond to those blogs with significant impact. There are dozens upon dozens of bloggers who dislike our mission and effectiveness. As unlikely as it may be&#8230;the MADD Indiana folks may have determined that your small voice crying out from the web did not warrant a response. Nah&#8230;that couldn&#8217;t be it. They probably just didn&#8217;t see it&#8230;really. As to our rightous indignation&#8230;we&#8217;re still as committed as ever. The early MADD days to which you refer, were quite effective as delivering a change message&#8230;that drinking while drunk was a bad idea. It required a cultural shift and a change in many laws across the nation. That phase has now passed. The message was delivered and received and the laws were changed. Our effectiveness continues, however, in courtrooms and state capitols. We call it strategy. If you&#8217;re not feeling our rage, it&#8217;s likely that you spend very little time where we are; gravesides, courtrooms, funerals, DUI Checkpoints, hospitals, high school autitoriums,or the hallways of congress.  We&#8217;ll continue to do the best that we can.<br />
Don Murray<br />
MADD Florida</p>
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		<title>By: Ron  McClure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron  McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that T.R. is not completely resting on his @$$ if for no other rea-son than posting this commentary.  As an outsider, I didn&#039;t feel that T.R. was making a personal attack on anyone, but merely sharing an honest observation about something that affected his emotions (maybe because he does have kids).  

No one, well almost no one, could genuinely discount the enormous impact that MADD has made in our culture.  However, we all get caught up in our work and personal lives, and sometimes a little constructive criticism can help to make us more effective.  I grew up in the &#039;80s, and I still remember being inundated with statistics and sad stories on a daily basis from all me-dia regarding the consequences of drunk-driving.  There was MADD, then SADD, and about any other acronym ending with DD.
  
Sure, as a decent citizen I should keep myself abreast of the works that MADD is involved with, but the fact is that politics, work, family, church and yes entertainment are already competing for my attention.  Often, that which is most prevalent is today&#039;s winner.  Unfortunately, these young drivers and victims will probably spend their time on You-Tube or Guitar Hero and opt against Friday night googling parties to see the latest impact of legislation and political marches by MADD.  The sad fact is, “out of sight, out of mind.”  

I&#039;m sure that T.R. happened to come across an article or evening news clip, and like you Mr. Murray was simultaneously enraged and stricken with em-pathetic sorrow.  Kids in today&#039;s world sometimes need to be slapped up-side the face with something that takes their breath away.  What an opportunity to grab their attention.

Don&#039;t take these comments personally, because we all fight our battles in different arenas.  It only shows how much many of us are aware and burdened with these senseless tragedies.

P.S.  I&#039;m sure T.R. does appreciate what you do.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that T.R. is not completely resting on his @$$ if for no other rea-son than posting this commentary.  As an outsider, I didn&#8217;t feel that T.R. was making a personal attack on anyone, but merely sharing an honest observation about something that affected his emotions (maybe because he does have kids).  </p>
<p>No one, well almost no one, could genuinely discount the enormous impact that MADD has made in our culture.  However, we all get caught up in our work and personal lives, and sometimes a little constructive criticism can help to make us more effective.  I grew up in the &#8217;80s, and I still remember being inundated with statistics and sad stories on a daily basis from all me-dia regarding the consequences of drunk-driving.  There was MADD, then SADD, and about any other acronym ending with DD.</p>
<p>Sure, as a decent citizen I should keep myself abreast of the works that MADD is involved with, but the fact is that politics, work, family, church and yes entertainment are already competing for my attention.  Often, that which is most prevalent is today&#8217;s winner.  Unfortunately, these young drivers and victims will probably spend their time on You-Tube or Guitar Hero and opt against Friday night googling parties to see the latest impact of legislation and political marches by MADD.  The sad fact is, “out of sight, out of mind.”  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that T.R. happened to come across an article or evening news clip, and like you Mr. Murray was simultaneously enraged and stricken with em-pathetic sorrow.  Kids in today&#8217;s world sometimes need to be slapped up-side the face with something that takes their breath away.  What an opportunity to grab their attention.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take these comments personally, because we all fight our battles in different arenas.  It only shows how much many of us are aware and burdened with these senseless tragedies.</p>
<p>P.S.  I&#8217;m sure T.R. does appreciate what you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Troglodad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troglodad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Murray, 

You proved my point by the fact that you commented on Florida&#039;s MADD&#039;s behalf. The Indiana contingent is just too apathetic to have responded or cared. See, my point was that in the 1980s, MADD was full of righteous indignation, piss and vinegar. They were everywhere you looked. Now they&#039;ve traded their anger for parking spaces at Capitol Hill. 

Passing new laws- great. But there&#039;s not a whole lot of Mad left in MADD anymore. I just am not feeling your rage about drunk driving. 

PErhaps we should rename the group FADD- folks against Drunk Driving?

Or maybe SADD- Somewhat Against Drunk Driving?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Murray, </p>
<p>You proved my point by the fact that you commented on Florida&#8217;s MADD&#8217;s behalf. The Indiana contingent is just too apathetic to have responded or cared. See, my point was that in the 1980s, MADD was full of righteous indignation, piss and vinegar. They were everywhere you looked. Now they&#8217;ve traded their anger for parking spaces at Capitol Hill. </p>
<p>Passing new laws- great. But there&#8217;s not a whole lot of Mad left in MADD anymore. I just am not feeling your rage about drunk driving. </p>
<p>PErhaps we should rename the group FADD- folks against Drunk Driving?</p>
<p>Or maybe SADD- Somewhat Against Drunk Driving?</p>
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		<title>By: Troglodad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troglodad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fairlane! Hey, I thought you were passed out in an alley somewhere! Long time, no hear! Welcome back.

Actually, I don&#039;t drink anymore (I&#039;d rather spend the money on my kids), nor have I ever driven drunk. 

And I am getting off my lazy ass- I&#039;m pointing out MADD&#039;s apathy on the two cases I mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairlane! Hey, I thought you were passed out in an alley somewhere! Long time, no hear! Welcome back.</p>
<p>Actually, I don&#8217;t drink anymore (I&#8217;d rather spend the money on my kids), nor have I ever driven drunk. </p>
<p>And I am getting off my lazy ass- I&#8217;m pointing out MADD&#8217;s apathy on the two cases I mentioned.</p>
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