Obama is the Devil
There’s an old saying that a lot of folks have apparently forgotten:
If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and acts like a duck… it’s a duck.
Some may cry "fowl," but I think Barack Hussein Obama is the Devil. (I don’t literally mean "Devil" as in Lucifer, the brightest angel cast out from Heaven into Hell. Just one of his minions.) We have a man who was educated as a child in Muslim schools. Who’s step-father was a muslim. Surely some of that wicked ideology rubbed off on him during those formative years. What person isn’t in some way influenced by the environment of their childhood?
Obama proudly declares that he formerly used drugs in his autobiography. So he’s a criminal as well. Not convicted apparently, but still a criminal- because to use you have to possess. Of course, being a criminal in the Devilcrat party isn’t a big deal. There are lots of lawbreakers there- ranging from those who patronize hookers, to drunk drivers that have killed passengers and then used their family’s standing to get out of it. Oh, I know, Republicans also have criminals and sexual deviants in their party. And I know that all people are imperfect and make mistakes. But mistakes are a long way from out and out evil.The final straw for me on the Demon Named Obama is his racist "former" minster, the Rev. Wright. For 20 years he sat in a Church that reverberated with speeches of hate, instead of compassion and remembrance of Christ. I wouldn’t have sat for 20 minutes in a place like that.
Of course, there is more I don’t like about Obama. How in an election where he didn’t have a clear win- he challenged voting results over and over until his opponent conceded. Then there was the time he was an intern at Michelle Obama’s lawfirm. He had a dalliance with a superviser and eventually married her. Not exactly professional behavior.
And I know that wanting to allow the murder of babies doesn’t singularly define you as evil. There’s always the chance you’re just stupid and don’t know any better.
But what really irks me about Obama is all the political correctness among conservatives talking about him. I’m sick and tired of hearing folks say that they respect him and love him as a fellow American citizen, but he isn’t the right man for the job. Even the great Ted Nugent, a man who I am proud to live in the same country as, declared (during a May 2008 Glenn Beck interview) his affection for Obama as a fellow citizen and American. I expected a statement like that from the kinder, gentler-than-me John McCain. But not Ted Nugent. Especially with Mr. Nugent’s everyday-rage against drug users.
Conservatives have become a bunch of namby-pamby, pantywaists. Afraid to speak their minds about the evil of Barack Hussein Obama. Disgusting. Do they think Teddy Roosevelt wouldn’t declare Obama the flaming, hellspawn Mallard he is?
A lot of republicans declare that they are better than name-calling. They talk about how Obama is a great dad. I really don’t care if Obama loves his children. I’m sure even Satan has great affection in his dark heart for cursed souls like Adolf Hitler. Tell me that there isn't some food that Charles Manson doesn’t love. Evil can love. But it is still evil.
Devilcrats are quick to brand folks evil. I remember many a nut declaring Ronald Reagan to be the antichrist in the 1980s. George Bush likewise is branded evil on a daily basis. I know all about taking the high road, but some things you shouldn't ignore.
The Republican Party wants to tell us how great John McCain and Sarah Palin are. Unless they also share the truth about how evil the alternative is, it seems kind of pointless to paint a picture of how great John McCain is. What happened to all the straight talk?
If America votes for Obama, then America deserves the consequences. I will never lie to anyone and say that Obama is a good person. I’ll admit he may be nice to his kids, but he is clearly evil in a way Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy or even Nancy Pelosi could never truly fathom.
Declaring anything else is just qwackers.
I love a good frothy rant in the morning. Hehehehe. Considering the way he’s been portrayed as a “messiah” figure it only stands to reason that he also be demonized. Both of which are powerful figures, but I really don’t think he fits either one. He is a mere shell of a human, no more than a biological puppet operated by evil powers with nearly invisible yet unbreakable strings. I’m not ready to anoint McCain or Palin as anything other than human either, but they (particularly Palin) are far less controlled. Obama isn’t dangerous because he’s a dangerous devil, but because he’s a weak and simple shell in the hands of greatly evil puppeteers.
Give OBAMA a break ! I’m sure you know the REAL SATAN is called, “The accuser of the brethren”, and that seems to be the Republican party theme. OBAMA is a christian, not a republican, a christian. Rev. Wright is a very passionate minister, and because of the ignorance of most people, he was simply labeled, “An angry Black man”, and that scares the hell out of most white folks, except ones like me that actually hear what he has to say and puts the message into perspective, but most are quick to judge. Rev. Wright is not a racist. If you think that, you need to dig a little deeper into his message. As far as his “God Damn America”comments. He was expressing the belief of nearly every major religion, which is,”You reap what you sow”. When you think American should never receive any “Damnation”, you are saying we have been a perfect country. I know it’s your fear of offending anybody, that would keep most from saying that, but as a minister you have an obligation that is greater than just pleasing people. Anyway, we really should work together, instead of just tearing each other apart and getting nothing done. That’s my two cents. God Bless
How can God Bless, if Rev wright says He’s going to damn us?
And I agree, Wright isn’t an angry black man- he’s quite happy to get up front and peacock around, spewing his anti-whitey rhetoric.
But back to the crux of this piece…
Obama is the Devil. And if these here 57 States vote him as president, they must be qwackers.
Thanks for your two-cents, Steve. But me thinx you are a tad misinformed on Obama. I do agree somewhat with your characterization of the GOP. Believe it or not, I hate the Party almost as much as the liberals do. But I also think the same label applies to the Democratic Party, just moreso.
Aside from that, Obama has worse problems than the company he keeps (racist preachers, commie dictators, and domestic terrorists notwithstanding), like his pie in the sky, vacuous rhetoric and his lack of experience coupled with his lack of a plan. Oh, and did I mention, he’s a race baiting liar who says that when it comes to life in the womb, that’s above his pay grade. Yet, he thinks every woman should have the right to a partial birth abortion. Hell, abortion in general is just fine with him. And did I mention that he voted against the born alive infant protection act; that he’s an elitist politician who will say whatever is necessary to get elected and stay elected? But I hear you, Steve. I hear you. Obama isn’t the problem. Neither is the neoRepublican/Democratic Party. It’s the American electorate, namely the 80% who vote the party line no matter what. And until these folks stop drinking and start thinking, we will continue to get abortion on demand, tax-payer funded multibillion dollar corporate bailouts (handouts is a better descriptor), trillion dollar deficits, out of control debt, morally reprehensible trade agreements, open borders and amnesty for illegals, socialized (fill in the blank) and more.
Additionally, if you think the Democratic Party doesn’t have blood on its hands when it comes to the shape this country is in, then you truly have drunk the Kool-Aid, Steve.
I apologize if that sounds harsh. I guess I have little patience anymore when it comes to discussing politics and part of the reason is that well meaning people like yourself, Steve, are way off the map when you defend political parties and their mouthpieces. You need to be honest and admit that both parties are at fault here and that the American people’s apathy (due to their political impotence) is only going to accelerate our decline into decadence. The people no longer have a voice and it has never been more evident than in the past eight years. Lawmakers largely do whatever they want. In general, they are free agents for sale to the highest bidder; without conscience, without accountability, and without a sense of propriety.
Wright says “Goddamn America,” and that makes him “racist?”
Are you saying America is a “White” nation?
Who’s the real “racist” here?
The fact is, some of what Wright said is true.
“The final straw for me.”
You are such a douche bag.
“The final straw?”
Give me a f-ing break.
You don’t give a crap about racism.
If racism was enough to push you over the proverbial “edge,” you’d re-register as an Independent,and vow to never vote for another Republican the rest of your life.
Seriously, who buys this faux “Outrage?”
You are as equally phony, as you are ignorant.
yer right Fairlane- I was sloppy and didn’t explain why I (and so many others) brand Wright a racist. Thanks for pointing that out.
Why would I register as an Independent? Do they have primaries? Here in Indiana I thought you only had two choices. Man, if you’re right, that I can register as anything I want, I’m putting down “Bull Moose”!
I do give a crap about racism. I think it’s reprehensible for any color to discriminate any color. After all, once a tank drives over you, whether you’re in Tienanmen Square, or on Wall Street, your carcass smeared on the road is going to look pretty much the same. We’re all squishy and red on the inside.
And I guess you’ve got me on the final straw- it was more of a first straw. But it’s an important one. I mean, Nobama sat in Wright’s hate-filled church for 20 years. Not once or twice. Hundreds of times. That’s despicable. But, again, you’re right (but not Wright), I should have said the greatest straw. But that doesn’t sound as good.
Thanks for keeping us honest Fairlane.
Oh, and here’s a quick example (quotes) of some things that make me believe Wright is a racist:
“government lied about their belief that all men were created equal. The truth is they believed that all white men were created equal.”
(in a tirade against governments in general and against the U.S.A.) “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.”
“When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experiments, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, not God Bless America. God damn America — that’s in the Bible — for killing innocent people. ”
Clearly, Wright has a chip on his shoulder against anyone who isn’t black. Worse, he sees the “government” as a conscious entity. I hate to break it to him, but the government as it exists today is not the government of the founding fathers, for the clearly simple fact that governments are made of people. There’s no hive mind. Maybe if Wright took off his hate-tinted glasses, he’d figure that out.
Trog-
I’m no apologist for Wright, but the fact of the matter is, some of what he says is, true.
Maybe it’s uncomfortable, but that doesn’t change reality.
People in this country are suffering, all shapes, sizes, and colors.
You know this, I know this, the only people who don’t know, or care?, are the people behind it.
But racism isn’t dead, not by a long shot, and comparing what a Black person “Thinks,” to what White people can actually “Do,” is an unfair comparison.
Who cares if Wright doesn’t like white people? What’s he going to do about it?
Bitch?
The danger from Wright is minimal, at best, but when blacks look at racism, they’re looking the power structure in the face.
That doesn’t excuse hatred, hatred is ignorant, period. But there’s no doubt hatred has many degrees, and some are worse than others.
I’m white, and I’ve never once been discriminated against in MY ENTIRE LIFE because of it.
This idea that Whites are now being threatened because they’re White, is Ludicrous.
If you want to say “The Poor,” the “Have Nots,” the people with the “Wrong Last Names,” well, that’s an entirely different story.
We’re not being targeted because of our skin color, we’re being targeted because we don’t OWN ANYTHING.
Oh, I hope you know I was being overly Jerkish in my original comment. I am supposed to be the resident Troll, you know? And things were looking kind of bleak over here.
Like a Mortuary.
That is funny…. Humans are not stupid… American’s are stupid… One they voted Bush into office twice.. Now they want to vote a non experienced man in foreign policy that is racist and ready to take America down.. So the stupid American’s are going to vote another fool into office and then they are going to complain about what that fool has done or not done for America and then they will be in more sad shape and only have themselves to blame.. But, heed this that you have been warned….. Gay’s only want to vote Democrate because they think he will give them Gay rights… But, I know some Gay’s that don’t care about Gay rights…. So that is another stupid issue…
Thanks for the compliment, Edna! And while I admit many of my fellow Americans are indeed stupid, you missed the point of the cartoon- Obama thinks we’re all stupid. All humans. He’s one of those stupid people who are blissfully unaware how stupid they are and think that everyone else is stupider.
Sadly, I agree with you that Beezelbarack will indeed be voted into office. I also think you’re spot on with gays voting Democrook because they think they’ll get a payback. Heck, 90% of all Devilcrats think that voting to the left will get them something in return. Country First is not a concept found among leftists… which is ironic since Kennedy said it so well, with his “Not what your country can do for you” quote.
Welcome to our MTW contributorship- I look forward to more of your comments!
Well, Edna, the humans/Americans are stupid thing is debatable. Since we have to do all the living, working, and dying in this country, it derives the same way: Basically, when it comes to the political machinery, we’re all screwed.
But you are absolutely right. We will beg for (insert political candidate or legislation) and then complain when we get what we asked for. A good example of legislation for future reference will be national healthcare. Many of the same people who are saying the government is inept are also begging Uncle Sugar to create and run a national healthcare system. When it fails (and fails miserably) they will be the first to throw rocks at “da gubmint.”
What we need is less government, NOT more of it. And those who believe that government intervention is the answer to all our ills or even many of our ills are sadly mistaken. History has, and is proving that point, but that won’t stop the flatliners ideologically. Nor will it impede their progress in obtaining an ever expanding government of socialism.
Thanks for the comment.
Both parties parade out these caricatures, and I’m supposed to choose one of them?
On one side we have Mc Cain/Palin. A man who seems to think the best part of his life was spent in a POW camp, and a woman who is so artificial I’m not convinced she’s actually human.
Oh, but wait. Then we have Obama the snake oil salesman, and Biden…hell, I’m not sure what to think of him.
Those are my choices?
Here’s the truth. Libs and Cons are mirror images.
That’s why you dislike one another so much.
And what frightens me is, I don’t think you’ll ever admit it.
I disagree. I think that, in general, they are more like film and their corresponding negatives…or maybe matter and anti-matter. I do think the neocons and neoliberals do share some commonalities, though. For example:
1. fiscally irresponsible
2. pro-government obtrusiveness/pervasiveness
3. career politicians
4. elitist
5. deregulated trade policies
6. legislation to the highest bidder
7. morally deficient
That’s my view, anyway. I guess those who don’t like it can sue me.
Fairlane, they are indeed your choices. Not voting is the same as casting a ballot for Obama.
And I must repsectfully disagree with your assessment that Obama is the mirror image of McCain. Hellary is. Slick Willie is. But you’re minimizing the tragedy of Obama being a candidate by suggesting he’s merely another politician. He’s evil. His friends, Ayers, Wright, ACORN, Fannie and Freddie show just how evil he really is. He should never have even made it to the primary.
I’d rather have someone better than McCain to vote for, but at least I know he’ll respond to terrorist threats, unlike Bush who waited far too long to take action.
Trog- You could say the same exact thing about Mc Cain.
His connection to Charles Keating, his campaign manager receiving 15 grand a month from Fannie and Freddie until August of this year, and his ties to Iran/Contra.
The Keating connection should have been enough to throw him out of office.
Whether he participated or not, he knew Keating was engaged in criminal activities. (Mc Cain attended meetings that were set up to stall out the investigation). Largest scandal involving a single financial institution, in history.
You can’t claim you care about one, and disregard the other.
But you, and Chad whiffed on the point.
I’m not comparing the parties, I’m comparing their supporters.
You hate each other because you’re the SAME.
But, as I said, you’ll never admit it.
Every four years, I hear the Dems and Reps say, “Our candidate sucks, but he doesn’t suck as much as their’s.”
What kind of Democracy is that?
You’re both so stuck in the mud of your ideologies, you’d rather watch the country sink along with you than admit you’re wrong.
“Fiscally Conservative?”
Every time I hear a Wingnut utter that phrase, it makes me laugh.
I’m almost 40 years old, and in my lifetime, not a Single “Fiscally Conservative” Republican President, yet, the Myth lives on.
I know, I know, Reagan.
What a joke.
Ronnie made “Borrow and Spend” more fashionable than Parachute Pants, and today this country is in debt to the tune of 10 Trillion dollars.
That’s Ten Thousand Billion or Ten Million Million.
Oh, and let us not forget the ever wondrous, “Trickle Down Economics,” which helped the top 5% in this country secure 85% of our nation’s wealth.
Any real “Capitalist” knows such a reality is bad for business.
The majority of our “Best and Brightest” are now either swallowed up or crushed.
A great example, Energy.
As Chad, and I were discussing not long ago, today, 30 MPG is made out to be a big deal, but we seem to remember cars getting 40 MPG when we were kids, 35 YEARS AGO!
New technologies threatened the status quo, so, because they own this damn place, car manufacturers, and oil companies suppressed, and lobbied against advancements in technology.
Straight out of 1984. Yesterday, the chocolate ration was 4 ounces, today, they “Raised” it to 3 ounces.
If you really look, you’ll see that the only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties are their choices of “Wedge Issues.”
But how, pray tell, will these “Wedge Issues” ever be resolved if the Pepsi, and Coke parties rely on them to win elections?
Exactly, I’m glad we agree.
Good Lord, Fairlane- how do you expect me to respond to so many points in ONE THREAD?! Can we keep it to two or three points at most from now on?
McCain-Keating… I’m no history major, but I can’t for the life of me remember what Keating blew up. A thief is a thief and a terrorist is a terrorist. McCain hanging with Keating is bad, but Obama hanging with a terrorist is despicable. There’s NO comparison. (And wasn’t McCain cleared of wrongdoing in the Keating thing? If not, can I have a link to better edjumahcate myself?)
Iran/Contra? I still don’t see the problem with that. Wasn’t the ultimate result that we were indirectly supplying weapons to fight communists? At no taxpayer expense? Sounds like a sweet deal to me…
“I’m not comparing the parties, I’m comparing their supporters.
You hate each other because you’re the SAME.”
Wow. I thought calling me a “douche bag” was offensive. Now you want to say I’m the same as someone who believes in homosexual marriage, the murder of unborn children and socialism. You’re wrong of course, I vehemently oppose those three things. Throw in that I’m a raging Creationist/Christian and you’ll see I clearly am nothing like Obama’s followers.
“Every four years, I hear the Dems and Reps say, “Our candidate sucks, but he doesn’t suck as much as their’s.””
No, our candidate kinda sucks (because he’s awfully left-leaning) but the Devilcrats’ candidate is downright evil. Adolf Hitler evil, in my book.
“You’re both so stuck in the mud of your ideologies, you’d rather watch the country sink along with you than admit you’re wrong.”
So I should flip-flop on my ideology? Waffle back and forth like a democrat? Nah, I think I’ll actually make my mind up and stand by it.
I agree with you, in part on the “fiscally conservative” bit- no politician is. Republicans want to spend on defense, dems on foregin countries. But they’re both still spending MY taxes.
As for Reagan spending… I’d rather we were in debt ,then calling each other “comrade”. Freedom isn’t free, you dolt.
And I’m surprised that you, Fairlane, would whine about “trickle down economics”. You sound like a libtard lamenting rich people having the majority of the wealth. That’s like whining that farmers have the majority of the food. No sh!#, sherlock. That’s why they’re “rich”. And maybe, just maybe, they EARNED that wealth. Not like checks mailed out for having babies and sitting on your @$$ like some citizens.
As for you gas mileage rant- blame the tree huggers. If it weren’t for emissions controls, cars would get MUCH better gas mileage.
You know Fairlane, if you’re going to play the role of Devil’s advocate/troll, can you give us some better arguments? I know you can do better, I’ve read your blog.
Trog- I don’t even know where to begin.
You calling me a “dolt” is akin to Star Davis calling someone fat.
And yet again, you missed the point.
You can’t get past what you think,and feel.
To be honest, I don’t expect you to understand. I don’t think you have the capacity.
My comments on the matter are more for Chadly, who, I know, understands.
I will say, your comment, ironically, proved my point better than I ever could. You, just like the Democrats, are so deluded, you ignore reality.
They rook you people every single election with their “Wedge Issues,” and like the lemmings you are, you line up pledging allegiance.
I guess I did know where to begin.
I have two more things I wanted to say.
One-
This so-called “Opposition” to the redistribution of wealth is, for lack of better word, straight up Bullschlit.
How do you think small towns build roads, schools, firehouses, fund their governments, pay for expansion, etc?
Here’s how- The Redistribution of Wealth.
I live in Louisville, and although Louisville only has 25% of Tuck’s population, we pay 60% of the taxes.
Now, expand that to the national level. Last time I checked, only three, THREE, “Red States” paid their share of Federal Taxes. The rest run deficits every year, which forces the “Godless, commie, Blue States” to pick up their slack.
In other words, people like you wouldn’t even have a street to live on without the “Redistribution of Wealth.”
Number Two-
You voted for Chimpy not once, but twice, and the same crap you’re saying now, is exactly what you were saying 8 years ago.
Chimpy will go down as one of the WORST presidents in this country’s history (Top two).
Yet, instead of being a man by admitting you made a mistake, and offering to sit this one out because it’s obvious you, at the very least, have impaired judgment, you continue to run off at the mouth.
Bottom line, you, and all other Chimpy supporters, lost your right to sit at the table with the Big People.
I wouldn’t trust you to pick out a pair of socks.
Fairlane- you feeling allright? I mean, seriously, this just isn’t your style. Where’s the clever wit? All you’re giving is devilcrat methodology- repeating a lie over and over as if it’ll magically come true. Chanting didn’t work for Dorothy, and it ain’t working here.
If you’re not even going to try, what’s the point of posting?
All I can say Trog is, look it up yourself.
You small town people live off other people’s milk.
That’s a fact.
Small town America, and the majority of “Red States” would dry up, and blow away without “Papa Government.”
Sure, Reps within state gov talk about “lowering taxes,” but they only mean for their little Burgs. However, their constituents already pay less than their fair share, as it is. And, when Congress convenes, those same Reps show up bright, and early with their little hands out (Palin is a Wonderful Example).
Federal Spending by state.
If you click on the link, you’ll that 13 out of the top fifteen are “Red States.” You’ll also see the majority of states paying more, while receiving less, are “Blue States” (8 out of 9).
Sixteen of the 31 states that supported Chimpy in 2004 have higher rates of poverty than the national average. Three other “Red States,” including Indiana, are at the doorstep. And let’s not forget. Poverty statistics are misleading. For example, a family of four making more than 22 grand is above the Government’s poverty threshold. Not many places a family of four can live on 22 grand.
The “Red States” also tend to have higher unemployment, higher drop out rates, teen pregnancy, divorce, illiteracy, drug/alcohol abuse, domestic violence issues, etc, etc.
Again, you can look this up on your own.
The truth is, at least from what I see, Wingnuts are really only interested in one thing-
Legislating their Religion.
The so-called “Moral Issues” trump everything else, even your own well being, and the most hilarious part is, it’s Pointless.
They use you (Palin comes to mind), and you’re more than willing to let them. Then you have the nerve to lecture others about “Personal Responsibility?”
And,again, again-
I’m dead serious when I say- Anyone who voted for Chimpy has no right to pontificate, complain, whine (Complaining squared), or point fingers.
It’s not like you went to the store to pick up milk, and came home with bacon instead.
You went to the store, and on the way home, you spent all our money, killed a couple hundred thousand people, and signed over the deed to our house.
You don’t get to make adult decisions anymore.
You are correct about one thing. I am “tired.” I’m tired of the Willful Ignorance I encounter on a regular basis, from Both Sides.
As far as I can tell, I’m one of the few people, in our little neighborhood, who consistently confronts both parties, not one, and I’ve lost hundreds of readers, as a result. Liberals love it, absolutely love it, when I scald Chimpy’s butt, not so much when I do the same to Obama.
Most people either ignore what They, and those They Support do altogether, or they pay lip service.
You may very well be a good guy Trog. Chad vouches for you, and I respect him a great deal. Having said that, you (Wingnuts), and the Moonbats consistently impact my life, and the lives of people I love, in a negative way.
If I were able to deliver a message to the country, this is what I’d say-
Get a therapist, start working on your self-esteem issues, and stop voting for your Alcoholic/Absent Fathers.
Here’s that link again, at least, I hope it works this time.
Federal spending by state.
Fairlane, you suffer from a severe case of Bush-hatred. Do I think Bush is a great President? No. Did I want him to win the primary those 8 years ago? No.
Your assertion that I shouldn’t have voted for him at all is absolutely assinine. Yes, in a perfect world, we’d have two wonderful candidates, either of which could do an excellent job. In reality, however, Bush was barely capable of doing the job, while Kerry and Gore were totally incapable of doing it.
There were two choices, and two choices only. I get you don’t like that, and you don’t like Bush. But I also get, that you can’t see how really bad things could have been if Kerry or Gore had won.
We’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this issue, because we could round and round forever on it.
And please, stop blaming the President for blowing your tax money. Congress does that, with all their pork barrel spending. There are plenty of other things to blame the Pres. for, putting everything on him, sparing Congress condemnation, is just plain lazy.
Talk about “Lazy.”
You call me a liar, I prove you wrong, and what do you do?
You run away, which is what you do every time you try to engage me in a debate.
Your Opinions are not facts, Trog. I know you think they are, but you are Incorrect. I apologize, but someone needed to tell you. God knows you’ll never hear the truth inside your Wingnut Echo Chamber.
Calling people “Socialists,” “Commies,” “asinine,” “stupid,” etc, etc proves nothing.
Why don’t you look up “Pork Barrel Spending.” You’ll be amazed, I’m sure, to find out that small towns, like the one in which you live, are the largest source of “Pork.”
You’ll also see that “Pork Barrel Spending” is a very small part of our national budget.
How about coming up with your own thoughts for once, instead of Parroting politicians?
I thought you “Hated” politicians.
Eh, we know that’s not true. You love politicians.
Without them you wouldn’t have any ideas.
You crack me up, Fairlane…
When did I call you a liar? Oh, sorry, I’m not supposed to point out fallacies in your arguments, am I?
Run away? Hunh? I suppose if you responded multiple times and I never counter-responded, then yes, that’d be running away. But I’m still here, ya big dummy.
My opinions aren’t facts… uh, okay. But what did I state was my opinion? Anyone can state a fact, and that’s what I do. Yes, I also state some opinions, but you’re going to have to be specific.
“Calling people “Socialists,” “Commies,” “asinine,” “stupid,” etc, etc proves nothing.”
True. The fact they are socialists is the proof. But like a good liberal (it is my opinion you are a raging liberal, BTW), you take that I find your assertion assinine and extend it to your person. I suppose if I said your farts stink, you’d go around declaring I had said you stink.
I never said my area of the country doesn’t get Pork Barrel Spending. Personally, I’d like to see a community that doesn’t get some Federal Pork and never asked for any. Cause I want to move there. My point was that it ain’t the Prez you should be lambasting for Pork- it’s Congress. But you’re so obsessed with hating Bush you couldn’t grasp the point I was making. Man, what are you going to do when Bush isn’t President anymore? Who will you blame for everything?
“You’ll also see that “Pork Barrel Spending” is a very small part of our national budget.”
Rape makes a small percentage of crimes committed in the U.S., but it’s still wrong.
“How about coming up with your own thoughts for once, instead of Parroting politicians?”
Is that the best you can do? Liberals parrot, Right minds think alike. Big difference.
You’d know that if you weren’t so far up the Left’s behind. What’s rich is you claim to be in the center. Ha! Center? I don’t think you could even find the center of a donut at this point.
I was going to respond point by point to demonstrate how you have trouble even following a basic conversation, but I’ve lost interest.
I’ll simply conclude with this-
If Obama is assassinated, I’m assuming, since you’re a “Real Man,” you’ll take some responsibility, right?
You are aware he’s getting death threats from people like you?
You know, people who say he’s “Evil,” and a “Terrorist?”
Are your comments supposed to be funny?
If not, isn’t death what “Evil Terrorists” deserve?
I’ve never called Chimpy a “Terrorist” or “Evil.”
I did call him a “Sociopath.”
That means he has no conscience, he’s Amoral. Kind of like you, and your “Evil Terrorist” comments. Especially when you know Obama is being threatened.
I do have one question.
Who in their right mind believes you’re a “Christian?”
Dang, Fairlane, you sure are living up to your new leftist way of life. Your debating skills have just gone right into the crapper.
And for a person who writes a blog, you’re not being very original. Are there any Devilcrat party lines you haven’t dropped on me so far?
If Obama is assassinated, it will be a crime, and I expect for the assassin to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Quite frankly, I’m amazed you would infer I would break the law, instead of going for the much easier, “You’re a racist” response. Surely you realize that anyone reading this thread will see you can’t defend your beloved Obamessiah, and have resorted to personal attacks in the fashion of a true moonbat.
Yes, I say Obama is evil, but I hold the law to be more important. I would never even consider what you have so slanderously accused me of. I know you lefties would, because you have no respect for the laws of this country, because then you’d have to respect the USA itself.
And no, Beezelbarack is not getting death threats from people like me- it’s the Ron Paul supporters and the Bush-is-behind-911 types that wear their tinfoil hats too tight that make death threats.
Also, while Beezelbarack hangs with terrorists, I don’t see him being one. He’s more of a terrorist groupie.
“If not, isn’t death what “Evil Terrorists” deserve?”
Tell me what benevolent terrorists deserve. Oops, you can’t. There’s no such thing.
I’ve never called Chimpy a “Terrorist” or “Evil.”
Really? Who ghost writes your blog? Cause I can cite one particular entry that all but says Bush is evil.
http://fairlane.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/free-at-last-free-at-last-thank-god-almighty-i-am-free-at-last/
“Who in their right mind believes you’re a “Christian?””
Well, Golly, that alone will take a whole nuther thread to argue. But first, any other attacks on my person you want make? You know there’s only so many things you can accuse me of. Then what? You ran out of arguments, switched to verbal attacks… what’s next?
I know, I know, it’s all part of your nefarious scheme to turn this thread, and readers away from the simple fact that Nobama is the worst possible candidate for President ever imagined, and that you have to be a complete and utter (insert expletive) to vote for him.
Only facts.
-Barack Obama worked as a community organizer.
-Obama collected money for helping the poor.
-Obama attended a church in that poor community.
-Jeremiah Wright was the pastor at the church.
-The congregation gives money to the church.
-The community is still poor.
-In 2007, the Obamas tithed $26,720 to that church.
-The Obamas adjusted gross income was $4.2 million…that is a tithe of o.6%…a far cry from the traditional 10%
-Their total charitable contributions were $240,000…6% of their income.
-Reverend Wright is retiring in a million dollar mansion in a 93% white, affluent suburb.
-The church’s community is still poor.
I dare anyone to twist those facts into cotton-candy and sparklers.
Reverend Wright is a hypocrite. He took their money to go live with the people he called oppressors.
Lying, cheating, backstabbing crooks. I believe Obama is trying to figure out how to extort the entire country.
Rhetoric aside, no one can call himself a Christian if he makes 4.2 million dollars…FOUR MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!! And then, turn around and tithe 0.6% to HIS church in a poor community. Makes me think about a cow and a needle.
Please, make one fact-based argument in the contrary.
Obamas’ 2007 tax return.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/04/obama_releases.html
Ron- Before I proceed, I’ve never defended Obama. Don’t care for the man, will not be voting for the man.
I agree, he’s a snake oil salesman, as they all are.
However, you cross the line when people start making death threats, and what Trog said in this post, and in others, is exactly the same hate filled rhetoric sent out in those chain emails, and it’s the same rhetoric shouted out during one of Mc Cain’s last rallies.
I don’t know if you saw it, but at one point he had to grab the microphone away from a woman who was calling Obama “Evil,” and an “Arab.”
Look above you, same exact words.
I’m all for “Satire,” and criticism of the government, but there’s a line, and people like Trog consistently cross that line, and then try to hide. He wants to call Obama a “n*gger” without actually saying the word.
Again, look at his posts. Any chance he gets to rail against blacks, he jumps in with both feet.
To address the “They give money, but the community is still poor” comment. That doesn’t make sense. Throwing money at the problem won’t solve poverty.
I thought you people were Republicans.
Trog- Buddy, you just can’t seem to grasp what I’m saying without trying to put it in the “Liberals vs. Con” framework.
I’m far beyond such silliness.
I speak for myself, and myself alone. What “Liberals” say, and do has no relevance to me or my opinions.
My problem with you, ultimately, has nothing to do with politics or Libs vs. Cons.
My problem with you is the same problem I have with many Americans.
You’re a Liar.
You hide, Trog. You hide behind your Moralistic Wankering, your Ideology, which I’m not sure you even understand, and your Bible. Oh, and this blather you call “Satire.”
I could point out numerous times where you flat out Lied, but I’ll stick to a subject you seem to address with some frequency.
Drug abuse/addiction.
“Obama proudly declares that he formerly used drugs in his autobiography. So he’s a criminal as well.”
Now, Trog, you’re just not being consistent here.
George Bush is also an admitted drug user, and alcoholic. Yet, you voted for him, TWICE. This information came out BEFORE the election, so, you can’t plead ignorance.
I must admit, I find your Double Think confusing.
Which is it?
Are drug users, both former and current, criminals or not?
Can you understand why this might be confusing?
You vote for “Criminals,” but you despise “Criminals?”
I thought you said you’d never waiver when it comes to your beliefs?
Now, I know Chadly would say, “You set Trog up to be a Straw Man.”
Eh, maybe, a little.
I’m more intelligent than you, and I will acknowledge you’re easy to manipulate, but there’s more to it.
When it comes down to brass tacks, I’m not really interested in politics as much as I’m interested in human beings.
More accurately- Why do we do what we do?
My reasons, for the most part, are entirely selfish. Understanding you, helps me understand myself.
For example, I despise “Debating” with people on the Internet, yet, here I am.
Why?
I know you will never admit you’re wrong, which you most assuredly are, so, what’s the f-ing point?
Hmmm. I imagine some of it is Vanity/Arrogance, maybe a smidgen of Boredom.
Maybe I see some of myself in you, your rigidity.
Yes, I think that’s part of it as well.
The inability to admit you’re wrong.
You see, Trog. We’re all wrong.
The world’s problems are not caused by “Muslims” or “Christians” or “Moonbats” or “Wingnuts” or even the lowly “Drug addicts.”
The world’s problems are caused by Human Beings.
You could have the most perfect ideology in History, and as soon as you put it into practice, it’s purity would disappear.
This is why communism failed. Not because it wasn’t a good idea, but because human beings are incapable of creating Utopia.
Flawed creatures cannot create Perfection.
This is also why capitalism is currently failing.
In its pure form, capitalism encourages competition, creativity, and intellectual growth.
But people always muck it up. They get greedy, they get powerful, and they start to manipulate reality in order to gain more wealth, and more power, often at the expense of others.
I hope I don’t sound misanthropic because I’m not. I don’t hate people.
I just don’t expect perfection. At one time, when I was younger, I thought Utopia sounded great.
Not so much these days.
I like being flawed. I’m cool with it.
However, I get the impression you have a hard time accepting human fallibility.
A person makes mistakes, and WHAM, they’re “Evil.”
But, again, only if you disagree with them. Your “Friends” get unlimited free passes.
It’s absurd.
Barack may very well be a liar. He says things he doesn’t mean, and makes promises he knows he can’t keep. Oh, and he knows some shady people (Who doesn’t, by the way?)
People who disagree Ideologically, whether you believe it or not, can be friends.
Chad, and I vehemently disagree on several very important issues, but if he ever needed me, I’d be right there. That doesn’t mean I agree with his views or vice versa.
Who Obama knows does not make him “Evil.”
We’re not children.
The hyperbole from the Right has taken the conversation to levels not seen in decades, if ever. People are openly calling for Obama to be murdered.
Even some Wingnuts are expressing concern that he might be assassinated or, at least, someone may attempt it.
You are participating in that conversation, Trog, which, in my opinion, makes you every bit as culpable.
“To address the “They give money, but the community is still poor” comment. That doesn’t make sense. Throwing money at the problem won’t solve poverty”
Actually, I was making the point that they are TAKING money from the poor instead of GIVING. That is why I attached Obamas’ tax return. I know for a fact that throwing money isn’t the answer, but if he can’t tithe properly while making that much money, it really shows his character.
Likewise, why does Wright get to be “privileged” like whitey, while his congregation remains in poverty…they are PAYING HIM to tell them whitey takes advantage of the poor…how can people not see the hypocrisy?
Oh and I stopped calling myself Republican when I finally opened my eyes. Them’s fightin’ words.
“Trog consistently cross that line, and then try to hide. He wants to call Obama a “n*gger” without actually saying the word.”
Gosh, Fairlane, I didn’t know you were psychic. Since you have the ability to read my mind, can you tell me where some DVDs are in my house- I forget where I set them. Perhaps you can look into my mind and pull out the memory.
(For any reader still with us, I don’t want to call Beezelbarak the n-word. That’s just dumbas- er, Fairlane, trying to deflect attention from my very valid criticism of Nobama. It’s a typical Left tactic)
Fairlane, you accuse me of not understanding you- you got that correct. Cause you sure sound like a moonbat to me, yet you claim to be middle-of-the-road; that’s where one can find horse droppings- which is appropriate as you seem to be full of shit half the time.
“I could point out numerous times where you flat out Lied, but I’ll stick to a subject you seem to address with some frequency.”
No you couldn’t.
-“Obama proudly declares that he formerly used drugs in his autobiography. So he’s a criminal as well.”
“Now, Trog, you’re just not being consistent here… George Bush is also an admitted drug user, and alcoholic. Yet, you voted for him, TWICE.”
Yep, I could have voted for the socialist, climate-change liar, or the socialist, war-protesting traitor instead. Gosh, however did I make up my mind?
“I must admit, I find your Double Think confusing.”
Double-think? Barack Osama is so much worse than Bush ever hoped to be. He’s worse than Kerry or Gore. In fact, if it came down to it, I’d happily vote for a Kerry/Gore ticket rather than Nobama. At least they’re Americans, and want America to continue for their own profit. Not like the terrorist groupie who wants to communize America, rewarding laziness with wealth, and punishing success with punitive taxes.
“You vote for “Criminals,” but you despise “Criminals?” I thought you said you’d never waiver when it comes to your beliefs?”
Not casting a vote in a two-candidate race, is the same as voting for the winner. You have helped them get closer to victory. What, you think if no one voted that there wouldn’t be a declared winner?
You are like one of those idiotic Amnesty International types who go to foreign countries and declare they have “rights.” You need to wake the hell up and realize you are stuck in a world that often has less than ideal solutions.
To nerdify this for you, I suggest you go watch Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan- in particular, the Kobiyashi Maru scenes. Only in real life, you are no Captain Kirk, and you can’t reprogram life to have a winner. Real life is about damage control- minimizing damage. Like jumping out of a window to your death, rather than staying inside to be slowly burned alive.
“I’m more intelligent than you, and I will acknowledge you’re easy to manipulate, but there’s more to it.”
And next you’ll declare you have “bigger genitalia.” Do you take something for that complex, Napoleon?
To answer your question- why do I post here? Why to get readers and provide content, you ignoramus. Why else debate on a blog? I mean, do I care what you think? Hell no. But if readers agree with me, or you, they might keep coming back to read more. Duh.
“You see, Trog. We’re all wrong.”
Not entirely true- we are all wrong about something at one point or another. But many of us are often right about some thing or another. In this case, I’m Right, and you’re left/wrong.
“You could have the most perfect ideology in History, and as soon as you put it into practice, it’s purity would disappear.”
Damn. That’s the one thing you’ve ever written that I agree with 100% and have in fact argued very strongly for in the past.
“This is why communism failed. Not because it wasn’t a good idea, but because human beings are incapable of creating Utopia.”
I disagree- it’s a terrible idea, but that’s an argument for another thread. This one is about what an evil bastard Comrade Obama is, remember?
“A person makes mistakes, and WHAM, they’re “Evil.””
Hanging with pedophiles, terrorists and voter fraud are not “mistakes.” A mistake is something you didn’t mean to do. Seriously. Look it up. They have these great things called “dictionaries.”
“Who Obama knows does not make him ‘Evil.’”
Nope, who he CHOOSES to hang with makes him evil. I mean, I know you, but I don’t choose to hang with you.
“The hyperbole from the Right has taken the conversation to levels not seen in decades, if ever. People are openly calling for Obama to be murdered.”
Crazy people say crap like that every election. But in this blogging age, the nuts have a better forum for their insanity. It’s nothing new.
“You are participating in that conversation, Trog, which, in my opinion, makes you every bit as culpable.”
Again, you try and silence dissent, rather than your precious Nobama be revealed for the threat he is. First I’m racist, now I’m enticing assassination. Weak. So very weak, Fairlame. Again, you’re not even trying, you’re just churning out crap response after crap response. That proves your emotional investment in Nobama. If you really didn’t like him, you could be detached and come up with some of the clever wit so present on your own blog. Your idolatry of Beezelbarack betrays you.
TROG: I wanted to say per fairlane’s earlier comment concerning your spiritual orientation (’cause I know my opinion really matters to you): “Who in their right right mind thinks [T.R.] is a Christian?”
I do believe you are, in fact, a Christian, T.R. But then, perhaps I’m not in my right mind…LOL
Okay, addressing the whole Obamanation phenomenon:
First off, you’re making the standard mistake, the mistake all Americans are intended to make, of believing that these “elections” are not pre-determined in their results way, way beforehand. Ever since they brought in Diebold and other forms of computerized vote-counting, the Little Man Behind The Curtain controls the Great and Powerful Oz subtly but effectively, and the White man’s last vestige of true power, his precious little vote, has gone the way of the dinosaurs and the dodo bird.
I personally doubt that we have had a genuine presidential election in the past 20 years or so. I think that after Ronald Reagan, who love him or hate him was the last real American President, it became obvious to the Skull and Bones crew and the shadowy, soulless men in business suits who actually run this country that even with a non-choice of two empty suits, more “stability” in our leadership was needed. They worked out the present eight-year alternation system wherein the parties trade off every two elections, with the party whose year it is to “lose” putting up some blatantly obvious doofus like Bob Dole, John Kerry, or John McCain. Like all good palookas they go a couple of rounds for the spectators, and then they take a dive in the fifth.
Granted, the Obamanation is starting to seem like a glitch in the tape here. I admit, I didn’t take him seriously myself when he first appeared.
The question is: why Obama? Where does Hussein come from and who is behind him? I don’t think he ever came up with any idea by himself. Nobody besides me seems to have noticed this, but once you get beyond the sharp threads and the café-au-lait skin that seems to so fascinate everyone, especially bird-brained White media bimbos, we’re looking at another empty suit, and one even more empty than usual.
Fairlane, can you admit you were wrong?
http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html
Singleton is just a victim of the vast right-wing conspiracy.
Thank you for putting this article out about Barack Hussein Obama.
excuse my Barack Obama is the next president! Go OBAMA Mccain is the devil go obama!
Obama can spew that he is a christian till the cows come home…but he isn’t…he is muslim….and muslims consider christians their enemy.
God help us all.
Well, duh, Obama will win- cheaters always win.
you are stupid and so is everyone else here. christians and muslims are stupid. i am laughing at the whole world right now. and especially at you troglodad. burn down your flag and rise beyond the poignancy of your concerns about power. open your eye and see!
Thank you for considering me wise- but I have to admit, that unlike Odin, I didn’t give up an eye for my wisdom.
I’m curious as to where you’re writing from. You describe everyone as stupid “here”, and validate the statement with poor grammar and punctuation. If you could give me your location, I’ll be sure to avoid it. Promise.
ONE:
“you are stupid and so is everyone else here”
Evidently, it takes “ONE” to know one. That’s why you keep coming back. Next time, before commenting, do us all a favor and hire a proofreader. You can also save me invaluable time in editing by refraining from your use of racial epithets in your comments. Those kinds of contributions aren’t welcome here and if you keep it up, you won’t be either. If you persist in your adelpated, childish, and sophmo-moronic behavior, you will be unceremoniously banned from this site. Otherwise, feel free to participate.
Have a nice day.
Two words: President Obama. Learn it and deal with it.
Spoken like a true liberal: Actually, Ben, it’s President elect Obama NOT President Obama. Last time I checked Bush was still the prez. Until Barry is sworn in and power duly handed over we will continue to accurately use the correct title along with any other descriptors we think are appropriate. I suggest you do the same. That means Bush Jr. is still your president. If you think you can, I suggest you “Learn it and deal with it.”
I have been dealing with it for about eight years. I just meant you need to practice saying it… repeat after me, “President Obama”. If you practice now, it will be easier to say come January.
LOL..Ben, I don’t need practice; I need therapy. Eight years of neoconservative B.S. will do that to you. On top of that, I’ve got at least four (eight is more likely) more years of fiscal irresponsibility: more spending, expanded government programs, higher taxes, and a media mob which thinks the sun rises and sets in President elect Obama’s skin color and gift of oratory.
Obama is not the right person for the job, I don’t who is? But there is one thing I do know, I am a permanent resident of this great nation and proud of it.
I will soon be a citizen after I cough up another 750 dollars, which I don’t mind doing considering what this country has done for me.
On the other hand, the lazy good for nothing drug dealer who collects welfare checks off the sweaty backs of Tax payers gets to vote, but I the humble 50 hour a week tax payer has no say! If I did have a vote I would not have wasted it on Obama, I am just going to sit back and watch the show. I have already been pointed at in the street by Black people and told; ” it’s our turn now!” Their turn for what I ask? I think it is a misnomer that this new, president elect, is going to do anything for anyone. Wake up America we just threw away the nation to the Democrats. Blacks voted mainly because he’s black and that I understand, he’s not just going to tax the whites you know?
over and out!
I have always been very patriotic … I always vote and during the National Anthem I sing and cover my heart. As much as I did not like Clinton, I didn’t feel that something very basic was wrong with the whole situation that surrounded him. But I do feel that way this time. I would absolutely vote for the right black person or woman - it isn’t about that. But as the author of this thread points out, something is really wrong here. I struggle with the prospect of saluting the flag as normal even though I love my country and want to respect those who have given a so much for her and me in the past.
I have decided that the best way to handle this is to simply do this. During the Pledge or the National Anthem I will stand with my hands behind me (at ease), head bowed, and pray that God will protect this country from evil and potentially this man during the next 4 years of the Obama administration.
I don’t know what else to do but turn it over to God. Patriotic jestures just can not go on as usual unless Obama proves to me that he is not who I think he is.